@jextxadore I think the really long times are when people employ zen breathing control and obsessive body stillness. I’ve heard of Olympus users achieving one or two seconds. I can’t be bothered with that. I’m casual. Even with decent stabe (about four stops on mine), 1/10 is around my limit. Even that gives me some screw ups. On very rare occasions I can get 1/5 or 1/4.